The following article appeared in yesterday's Trinidad Guardian; it does not show up online, hence the reason I had to scan it for your reading pleasure!
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Tuesday, July 15, 2008
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26 comments:
Thanks for that one Saucy , no Soca now i guess it all part of the Evolution of Mas as a living artform huh, sans mas sans soca, I wonder what this new generation is going to cut out next...
Ouch. That was a harsh review.
The truth is often harsh.
This was one thing that I left out of my Kaotic review...the music was fabulous! There was one small session were they played some dancehall, for about 10 minutes, but then they went right back to the soca.
Wow! I don't know how to feel about that one. Why does he seem to be doing things so dreadfully wrong when it comes to Trinidad?
yet, another strike for evolution...
Wow! Crappy costumes and foreign music? Way to go Evolution!
If I was apart of Evolution right now I will feel like someone took the breath out of me with this article. I cannot understand why they did not play soca music? Soca is about 90% if carnival and this is crazy. I don't understand how you can display costumes and not play a bit of soca.
Saucy I now know why you said the models were not smiling and walking to fast...they just didn't have the music to make them wine!!!!
i hope spice doh suffer the same fate on saturday at the same venue...
All you folks need to realise the Evolution involved here...
it is not Soca Switch season...
Soca Switch Season begins as de article say on 26th December and ends promptly at 10pm, not midnight...no promptly at 10:00pm if not before on Carnival Tuesday night...
so as Massassination commented what is removed next..well you will soon be dancing to the sounds of Techo, house, Rap and dancehall with 2 soca thrown in.
but..WE LIKE IT SO...de trini attitude...
how much ah all yuh does support de all soca station 91.9 bashment..
put up yuh hand, put up yuh hand..
just the answer to that alone can tell why the Evolution will contine
We moving to we rhythms.
It's WE ting.
No one can buy what cannot be bought. Visitors are only passing through. Every year some try to tun we head, but no one, no advertising, no promise, can can capture the ephemeral wonder lived in and instant, and tomorrow we done.
Don't forget yuh history, don't forget the past. We (Trinidad and Tobago) set the standards, we set the pace. Copy is flattery not essence. We moving forward with WE ting, we heart, and we soul. Ah hearing Ras Shorty "Music" right now, the power.
Contrary to one of biggest human concocted fallacies, he who has the most money does NOT always win!
Whey my people? Chipping down de road, for sure :)
Soca and or calypso will NEVER be taken seriously until we do as the Jamaicans, EAT, SLEEP, LIVE AND BREATH IT!
Soca SHOULD NOT be considered festival music, we as Trinbagonians are bigger than carnival and so is OUR music.
I remember someone once saying, when you in Jamaica you know it. You will hear reggae/dancehall 24/7. You will hear it regardless of the reason and or season.
I cannot tell you how it burns my skin to hear "loose change" aka Fiddy Cent when I'm in my beloved country of steelpan, kaiso and limbo on Ash Wednesday and or Carnival Tuesday night.
Thank God for 91.9!
Ah Shame shame shame for u Evolution and yuh dj's for this scandal. maybe they thought no one would notice. Crappy costumes + no soca well allyuh deserve what allyuh get yes.
ok in defense of Zen, this I am sure was the result of choosing the wrong venue and time to launch. Zen is a night club which caters to the musical taste of it's patrons. Every Fri. and Sat. Zen is full and are well aware by now of what they need to do to entertain. Some bands like Evolution choose to use this venue for a launch if they are unsure of being able to full a venue on their own. It's better to have a full venue obviously. And as far as the comment on what music is played or listen to by Trinidadians that should be left up to us. If you want us to listen to soca all year round. Then make soca and market soca so we will want it all year. This idea of forcing soca at us by censoring all other music has, and never will work. The Artiste must work extra hard at their talents and marketing so we want it of our own free will. If Soca is to make it, it must be able to compete on it's own with any other type of music.,
Wayyyy boy! Evolution really stepped in it there. I wonder if this reviewer will get a nastily worded response like saucy did. Maybe he is also fat and unhappy....
Good point about the location being a factor. But seriously, most trinis will not mind a 45 minute soca jam session - especially when it is clear that is for the costumes to parade down the 'ramp'....
You need to do better Evolution...
wow... so they launched the band with mundane costumes AND no soca??? i don't care if it's not "soca season" (and how de ass soca could be out of season in the land of its birth???) you know you're launching your band... you better make soca happen on that stage or find another venue with a better set of DJs. you mean to tell me that for 45 minutes they couldn't manage to play a lick of soca to showcase CARNIVAL costumes???!!! gimme a break man. that's ridiculous. *smdh*
band, that is still no excuse. I've heard soca at Zen before, and I had a rel good time there. Wha happen to the dj that night? Music mafia lockdown, perhaps? Or was it that Evolution did not want soca?
And about music taste. I love meh roots Reggae ever since the one and only Bob, but Trinidad and Tobago has been lost in an indentity wilderness for far too long. I don't think anyone out of the Caribbean will ever match the massive worldwide impact as Nesta, Robert (Bob) Marley, because that was a once in ten lifetimes ting, and we were blessed for the living. No one is force feeding anybody soca, but just like so many aspects of Trinidad "society" allyuh tend to marginalize yuh own local culture and arts.
I for one use the music and atmosphere at a launch to try to judge what it might be like on the road with that band. So no soca is a HUGE no no!
Laventille Lady - In Jamaica you certainly don't hear reggae 24/7. They have the same argument going on there, not enough dancehall stations, too much American music. It is only recently radio stations dedicated to reggae have been around! When I'm there I hear more dancehall on my iPod than on the radio. From my experience I actually hear soca more in T&T than dancehall in much of Jamaica, esp around my in-laws there who hate it (strictly gospel people!). Jamaica is just better at exporting their music!
Quite a scathing review of the night. Well Curtis yuh look for dat !
and nuff respect to Soca 91.9fm .... SOCA ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
This is a bad sign for evolution. The bad reviews for their launch, now this and the already poor reviews they had from their own masqueraders this year. He probably depending on foreign masqueraders who have no idea about what's goin on.
Saucy do you have any insider information on their plans for damage control?
Band, stop defending Zen. The management of Zen and other readio stations continue to prove that they wish to control when and where, who and what music we should listen to. Nothing is wrong with soca music; the quality is very good and it's always current unlike any form of music. The problem is that we are not marketing our music and culture. Jamaicans do not just market dancehall and reggae, they market Jamaican culture. If we are not proud of our own music and culture outside of Carnival, then how do we expect outsiders to believe in it? if our own gov't does not even support their own, how can this happen. So the mafia takes advantange of this....
I think 'band' has a very legit point. The artistes in Trinidad only bring out soca around Carnival time. You ever hear a new soca song coming out, say around June? Every month a FEW new dancehall songs come out. I don't know if its a lack of talent with our soca artists or just good ole Trinidad mentality. Let's face it, we are not as hungry as Jamaicans when it comes to pushing our music and we don't bring out new songs throughout the year. Our people are just lackadasical and could care less about doing anything more to push our music. We settle!! As Trinidadians, we need to demand more of our artists and music, but we don't.
Perfect example of our attitudes is the poll that the Carnival Association posted online sometime about voting on 'Who wants the stage back' It received 400 votes. You're telling me that only 400 ppl want the stage back? out of 1.3 million. To just go on a website and vote on a poll for something that 3/4 of Trinidad wants is asking too much? All we do is complain complain complain but when it takes real effort and action, we curl up in a ball and nothing ever gets done cause it involves DOING as opposed to just TALKING. Why has there not been a demand for the stage? No strikes, No bandleaders stepping up and having the support of their masqueraders (That's another topic though!!)
so trini2dbone what you are saying is really that T&T soca music must be really new all the time for it to be played beyond SWITCH time?
I go to Barbados often, their music from their artists made in July for their August Crop Over can still be heard in November and December.
So why can't the music made in T&T for Feb be good enough to get air play in August??
Further you talk about dance hall releasing often, but at the same time you can still continue to hear on endless rotation some as you would probably say outdated dance hall (song released in say Jan being played in Aug).
The problem in T&T is that the DJs and citizens do not respect their OWN.
The artists who release songs for Carnival also have albums with 15 - 18 tracks..and some of them include wine and jam tunes, groovy, cross over, and other genres, how come you only hear a select 2 over and over and only between Jan - Feb?
Like I said before, stations have this stupid SWITCH nonsense going on, which says to the listener it's okay to listen to soca only between x to x time.
I'm jumping into this talk late.
Which 91.9FM allyuh does be listening to? The same 91.9fm that has used the excuse of having Elephant Man and Mr. Mentally Ill at Soca 4 Summer to NOW play a set of reggae.
The same Soca 4 Summer concert buss like peewah *spelling.
Trinis supporting dey own seasonally. Soca 4 Summer started off as a good thing until foolish egos got in the way. And continues to get in the way like the fiasco with Peter C. on Saturday night.
Interesting comments. As a Trinidadian who lives in Trinidad and who loves soca and who listens to the local radio stations all the time I can tell you that soca gets a lot of airplay year round. The clubs all play soca. BUT I don't think you can realistically expect a club, a radio station or a launch for that matter to play 100% soca right through. And I don't think because they don't they are unpatriotic or unsupportive of the culture. As much as I love soca I don't want to hear it for the whole night while I'm at a club or launch, after all variety is the spice of life. As much as I love soca a good party to me is one where you have a broad mix of the best music whether it be soca, hip-hop, dancehall, R&B, techo. My 2 cents.
Socaholic, I agree with you on that one though. That whole Soca 4 Summer thing with the Jamaican artistes had me really sore. For the life of me I can't think of a Soca tune that ElephantMan sings ... lol, but you have to give Jack his Jacket. 91.9 is still doing a good job.
Also, for those of you that are behind the times, Trinidadian artistes have for the past few years been bringing out new tunes in June/July for the other Carnivals up the islands. Their tunes continue to make waves and still hold up very well for our carnival the following year. Case in point: 'Wining Season', 'Assume the position' etc etc etc
This is not to say that they must bring out new tunes year round, but it does happen. I think that our artistes are hard at work. Think about what their schedules are like after the Carnival Season. It's non-stop travel and performances straight into the next Carnival. It is the so-called fans that need to step up the game, especially those living abroad. Jam yuh soca hard year round and when ppl ask, tell them bout yuh culture and your home!
i have a question... how many of you have actually seen the costumes in real... please stop judging things on other peoples opinions... see the costumes and then form your own opinion... thats my two cents
I fully agree with Laventille Lady!
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